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	<title>Comments on: Dogs may understand human point of view</title>
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		<title>By: Psy kradną po ciemku &#124; Ciekawostki</title>
		<link>http://www.port.ac.uk/uopnews/2013/02/11/dogs-may-understand-human-point-of-view/#comment-24357</link>
		<dc:creator>Psy kradną po ciemku &#124; Ciekawostki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Artykuł na podstawie materiałów z University of Portsmouth. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fritz</title>
		<link>http://www.port.ac.uk/uopnews/2013/02/11/dogs-may-understand-human-point-of-view/#comment-23466</link>
		<dc:creator>Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 04:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Animals are acutely aware of humans as well as other animals in the home. I enjoyed your anecdote, it is proof!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Animals are acutely aware of humans as well as other animals in the home. I enjoyed your anecdote, it is proof!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://www.port.ac.uk/uopnews/2013/02/11/dogs-may-understand-human-point-of-view/#comment-23296</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a case that doesn&#039;t involve food. Our dog had a case of dermatitis last year that we had a hard time getting under control. When he scratched excessively, we would tell him to stop. After a few days, he would go into a closet to scratch. I interpret this as him knowing this is something that he is not supposed to do, so he thought if he did it out of our sight, he could assuage his itch in peace. 

I don&#039;t know if this means he understands our point of view, but he knew he wanted to scratch and figured out a way to do it that wouldn&#039;t result in a &quot;no.&quot;

Just intuitively, it seems like this is different from dogs getting on couches or breaking other &quot;rules&quot; when we&#039;re not home. When we leave the house, the dog is &quot;in charge.&quot; When he hides to do a forbidden behavior or does it in the dark when we&#039;re present, it seems like some other process is at work.

By the way, we soon got the dermatitis under control which made the exercise moot -- fortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a case that doesn&#8217;t involve food. Our dog had a case of dermatitis last year that we had a hard time getting under control. When he scratched excessively, we would tell him to stop. After a few days, he would go into a closet to scratch. I interpret this as him knowing this is something that he is not supposed to do, so he thought if he did it out of our sight, he could assuage his itch in peace. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if this means he understands our point of view, but he knew he wanted to scratch and figured out a way to do it that wouldn&#8217;t result in a &#8220;no.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just intuitively, it seems like this is different from dogs getting on couches or breaking other &#8220;rules&#8221; when we&#8217;re not home. When we leave the house, the dog is &#8220;in charge.&#8221; When he hides to do a forbidden behavior or does it in the dark when we&#8217;re present, it seems like some other process is at work.</p>
<p>By the way, we soon got the dermatitis under control which made the exercise moot &#8212; fortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: Estudio señala que los perros entienden el punto de vista humano &#124; PACH NEWS</title>
		<link>http://www.port.ac.uk/uopnews/2013/02/11/dogs-may-understand-human-point-of-view/#comment-23084</link>
		<dc:creator>Estudio señala que los perros entienden el punto de vista humano &#124; PACH NEWS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ver, lo que significa que podrían entender la perspectiva humana&#8221; señaló Kaminsky en un comunicado de su universidad. &#8220;Los humanos constantemente atribuyen ciertas cualidades y emociones a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: iain ballantyne</title>
		<link>http://www.port.ac.uk/uopnews/2013/02/11/dogs-may-understand-human-point-of-view/#comment-21692</link>
		<dc:creator>iain ballantyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 15:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about anthropomorphic explanations and this is supposed to be from a psychologist! Humbug! It&#039;s not a human point of view that the dogs understand. All pack animals know that a kill is more likely under cover of darkness. Do try to get this straight dog-lovers. DOGS DO NOT THINK it is you who think that they think like you
Iain Ballantyne
Chartered Occupational Psychologist
Portsmouth Business School</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about anthropomorphic explanations and this is supposed to be from a psychologist! Humbug! It&#8217;s not a human point of view that the dogs understand. All pack animals know that a kill is more likely under cover of darkness. Do try to get this straight dog-lovers. DOGS DO NOT THINK it is you who think that they think like you<br />
Iain Ballantyne<br />
Chartered Occupational Psychologist<br />
Portsmouth Business School</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.port.ac.uk/uopnews/2013/02/11/dogs-may-understand-human-point-of-view/#comment-20953</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 22:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no doubt that dogs ( animals in general ) can think and can understand. More people should realize this and not think...&quot; ah, its just a dumb dog&quot; I think some dogs are smarter than allot of people out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no doubt that dogs ( animals in general ) can think and can understand. More people should realize this and not think&#8230;&#8221; ah, its just a dumb dog&#8221; I think some dogs are smarter than allot of people out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Katybeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katybeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 02:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what you have proven is my dog steals food when I&#039;m not looking? And he knows when I&#039;m not looking. Beagle owners can tell you far more amazing stories than your light/dark room study. Not scientific, of-course. I don&#039;t think you have proven that dogs have a  human perspective but have found that dogs have an 
insctinctual survival mechnaism. 
Perhaps &quot; human perspective.” needs to be deffined more clearly...Dog thinks &quot; I should not take that pork chop because &quot;mom&quot; is planning to serve it for dinner? &quot;  Now that would be the humans perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what you have proven is my dog steals food when I&#8217;m not looking? And he knows when I&#8217;m not looking. Beagle owners can tell you far more amazing stories than your light/dark room study. Not scientific, of-course. I don&#8217;t think you have proven that dogs have a  human perspective but have found that dogs have an<br />
insctinctual survival mechnaism.<br />
Perhaps &#8221; human perspective.” needs to be deffined more clearly&#8230;Dog thinks &#8221; I should not take that pork chop because &#8220;mom&#8221; is planning to serve it for dinner? &#8221;  Now that would be the humans perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
		<link>http://www.port.ac.uk/uopnews/2013/02/11/dogs-may-understand-human-point-of-view/#comment-20306</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 12:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, cockroaches steal food when it&#039;s dark too.

Seriously though, I saw a doco a few years ago that was about how monkeys don&#039;t understand the pointing gesture, like when you point at what you are telling someone about. Dogs understand when you point at something, but chimps and other monkeys just don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, cockroaches steal food when it&#8217;s dark too.</p>
<p>Seriously though, I saw a doco a few years ago that was about how monkeys don&#8217;t understand the pointing gesture, like when you point at what you are telling someone about. Dogs understand when you point at something, but chimps and other monkeys just don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.port.ac.uk/uopnews/2013/02/11/dogs-may-understand-human-point-of-view/#comment-20038</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ignorant arrogance of science is astounding sometimes.  Any animal that has to survive in the wilderness knows what this report is saying about dogs.  What do you think a deer is thinking when it gets to a pond and starts to drink, that they&#039;re just dumb animals who don&#039;t understand that there may be another animal like a lion nearby who wants to kill them?  Of course they do.  They approach carefully and watch to see if any predators are around who might might punish them with death.  That is understanding that there is another point of view of another creature.  Dog&#039;s have that same innate knowledge, but they apply it in a domestic setting.

Animals are very intelligent.  Humans do have a higher intelligence, but not when it comes to survival.  We have bread that out of us, so it&#039;s no wonder we are surprised when we learn that animals have retained it.  Many animals learn early on to understand that other animals, including humans, have a point of view of wanting to eat them, and there is also the pack mentality of knowing who is top dog.  

I love my dogs, and our cats.  They&#039;re smarter than most humans I know.  The only thing this report proves to me is that there are a lot of scientists who should have had a pet growing up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ignorant arrogance of science is astounding sometimes.  Any animal that has to survive in the wilderness knows what this report is saying about dogs.  What do you think a deer is thinking when it gets to a pond and starts to drink, that they&#8217;re just dumb animals who don&#8217;t understand that there may be another animal like a lion nearby who wants to kill them?  Of course they do.  They approach carefully and watch to see if any predators are around who might might punish them with death.  That is understanding that there is another point of view of another creature.  Dog&#8217;s have that same innate knowledge, but they apply it in a domestic setting.</p>
<p>Animals are very intelligent.  Humans do have a higher intelligence, but not when it comes to survival.  We have bread that out of us, so it&#8217;s no wonder we are surprised when we learn that animals have retained it.  Many animals learn early on to understand that other animals, including humans, have a point of view of wanting to eat them, and there is also the pack mentality of knowing who is top dog.  </p>
<p>I love my dogs, and our cats.  They&#8217;re smarter than most humans I know.  The only thing this report proves to me is that there are a lot of scientists who should have had a pet growing up.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://www.port.ac.uk/uopnews/2013/02/11/dogs-may-understand-human-point-of-view/#comment-20011</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not food related, but my beloved Labrador Retriever, Sandy (RIP), was forbidden to go on the couch. I was in the den, with my back turned to her, when my son invited her up on the couch. She turned and looked to see if I was watching (I was, out of the corner of my eye but my back was to her) and climbed up. After I stifled my laughter, I turned around and looked at her and she got right down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not food related, but my beloved Labrador Retriever, Sandy (RIP), was forbidden to go on the couch. I was in the den, with my back turned to her, when my son invited her up on the couch. She turned and looked to see if I was watching (I was, out of the corner of my eye but my back was to her) and climbed up. After I stifled my laughter, I turned around and looked at her and she got right down.</p>
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